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BTW, came here to note that you Americans ignore the criticism against your own culture, a bit like when Muslims ignore criticism of terrorism. Maybe it's a human trait to never bite the hand that feeds. Maybe you just can't see that your empire has traits of pure undiluted evil and effects of mass destruction on an unprecedented scale that will go down in history, if human life survives.

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is that an attempted ad hominem attack? Because, I'm from Europe. :OK:

Your ilk has a much longer history of bloodshed and colonial oppression than America does, no matter where you are from in europe

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"Inauthenticity is a right of man … Take a 35-year-old man. Each morning he takes his car, drives to the office, pushes papers, has lunch in town, plays pool, pushes more papers, leaves work, has a couple of drinks, goes home, greets his wife, kisses his children, eats his steak in front of the TV, goes to bed, makes love, and falls asleep. Who reduces a man's life to this pathetic sequence of cliches? A journalist? A cop? A market researcher? A socialist-realist author? Not at all. He does it himself, breaking his day down into a series of poses chosen more or less unconsciously from the range of dominant stereotypes." - Raoul Vaneigem, "The Revolution of Everyday Life"

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Because many people live that routine daily without any sort of thought behind it. I'm afraid to do that and because of that fear I am stunted 31 year old man in a society where that is kind of the norm. The older I get and my desire for kids and marriage decreases rapidly my outlook of the future becomes more abstract and blank. 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx's_theory_of_alienation

 

The alienation from the self is a consequence of being a mechanistic part of a social class, which condition estranges a person from his and her humanity.

The theoretic basis of alienation, within the capitalist mode of production, is that the worker invariably loses the ability to determine his or her life and destiny, when deprived of the right to think (conceive) of himself as the director of his actions; to determine the character of said actions; to define relationships with other people; and to own the things and use the value of the goods and services, produced with his and her labour. 

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In other words, the estranged male should take ownership of a woman and some children. Revolt of the classes!

 

No, seriously, let's talk BOUT art. What do you guys/thugs/bois learn or achieve by looking at a Picasso? I just looked at a detail of Guernica (a nipple) and thought it was a pretty neat and original wayto paint a nipple, but I didn't find it particularly valuable as such. 

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While there is a nasty side to the banking / credit industry, an outright ban on lending money and making a profit on said loan is downright stupid. 

It would cripple the economy and create an unregulated black market of loan sharks. 

This is about as stupid as being against copyright, another relic of classical economics that has a dark side. 

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The State Shouldn't Protect Trade

 

When capitalists talk about the free market, they rarely humble themselves enough to let the market go unprotected by a state. By their philosophy, the market becomes an undefeatable beast that can by no means be threatened (de-growth). This is unnatural in a way Ayn Rand never admitted when she talked about 'a philosophy of capitalist life rather than a statist death'. My point is, it's unlikely that USA can achieve a truly free and natural trade, so why not take responsibility and act fairly, if you have to be a beast.

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It's absolute futility to impose a blanket ban in such chaotic places as internet forums on informal fallacies like ad hominem, straw man, and appeal to authority.  After all, the goalposts can often easily be moved by the opponent to make valid attacks on character, take-down arguments of their position, and references to relevant authorities appear to be fallacies.

 

If you're writing a philosophy paper, it's different because your arguments are being evaluated by someone who is presumably an expert and assessing you honestly.

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"When someone uses a mean name to talk about someone, that isn't an ad hominem.

 

An ad hominem specifically refers to poor rhetorical technique that attacks the individual instead of dealing with the argument at hand."

 

 

THOSE TWO ARE LITERALLY THE SAME DESCRIBED DIFFERENTLY.

 

If you can't be bothered to argue with the argument, just fucking ignore it. Writing "IDIOT" does not magically debunk the argument or build your credibility. It's just noise and prolongs the assumed nonsense of the "IDIOT" post, by doubling the amount of noisy posts.

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